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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.theheacocks.com/2007/02/rip-confident-conservatism/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting.  I love political debate.

I can&#039;t speak for any &quot;we&quot;, nut I can tell you I voted for him not because of his stance on gay marriage, which I personally am indifferent about, but because of his strong stance on combating terrorism.  With the additional polls that were taken in some states, it was evident that gay marriage did strike a chord in much of the voting populous.

With regards to our founding fathers, I don&#039;t corral them into any religious pools, simply moral ones.  Even the &quot;pagans&quot; and &quot;Masons&quot; had a moral standard that we have drifted far away from.  Moreover, no person is 100% moral.  I try my best to live by a code or morality, but I fall short several times.  If one were to dig for dirt on me, there would be a treasure trove of hypocrisy, but it wouldn&#039;t be a regular occurrence, or certainly not one that I would be proud of.  With regards to growing or even smoking their pot regularly, good for them.  If there was no law preventing it, I say smoke away.

I would love to see a marijuana legalized in today&#039;s world.  If someone can drink themselves to stupid, then smoke a few packs of cigarettes, what&#039;s the impending doom of pot.  But alas, it is still illegal, and law is something that should be respected and changed if necessary.  It shouldn&#039;t be optional for those that disagree.

I&#039;m a bit confused about why you would think the leadership of Iran is the most peaceful group in Iran.  Ahmadinejad, the current President held a conference that supposed the holocaust is a lie (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=17019), and regularly calls for the destruction of Israel.  He did reach out to POTUS regarding some talks, but admitted his letter was a recruitment to Islam, the only way to justice (http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0605110155191821.htm).  This sort of pedagogy is highly destructive, as history has proven.

Leaving Iraq immediately would have left that broken nation wide open to fascist takeover without check.  Whereas the US does it&#039;s very best to avoid injuring/killing non-combatants, the fascist takeover groups would have no issue annihilating anyone in their way.  There would have been peace, but on their terms, just like Taliban achieved in Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting.  I love political debate.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for any &#8220;we&#8221;, nut I can tell you I voted for him not because of his stance on gay marriage, which I personally am indifferent about, but because of his strong stance on combating terrorism.  With the additional polls that were taken in some states, it was evident that gay marriage did strike a chord in much of the voting populous.</p>
<p>With regards to our founding fathers, I don&#8217;t corral them into any religious pools, simply moral ones.  Even the &#8220;pagans&#8221; and &#8220;Masons&#8221; had a moral standard that we have drifted far away from.  Moreover, no person is 100% moral.  I try my best to live by a code or morality, but I fall short several times.  If one were to dig for dirt on me, there would be a treasure trove of hypocrisy, but it wouldn&#8217;t be a regular occurrence, or certainly not one that I would be proud of.  With regards to growing or even smoking their pot regularly, good for them.  If there was no law preventing it, I say smoke away.</p>
<p>I would love to see a marijuana legalized in today&#8217;s world.  If someone can drink themselves to stupid, then smoke a few packs of cigarettes, what&#8217;s the impending doom of pot.  But alas, it is still illegal, and law is something that should be respected and changed if necessary.  It shouldn&#8217;t be optional for those that disagree.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused about why you would think the leadership of Iran is the most peaceful group in Iran.  Ahmadinejad, the current President held a conference that supposed the holocaust is a lie (<a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=17019" rel="nofollow">http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=17019</a>), and regularly calls for the destruction of Israel.  He did reach out to POTUS regarding some talks, but admitted his letter was a recruitment to Islam, the only way to justice (<a href="http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0605110155191821.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0605110155191821.htm</a>).  This sort of pedagogy is highly destructive, as history has proven.</p>
<p>Leaving Iraq immediately would have left that broken nation wide open to fascist takeover without check.  Whereas the US does it&#8217;s very best to avoid injuring/killing non-combatants, the fascist takeover groups would have no issue annihilating anyone in their way.  There would have been peace, but on their terms, just like Taliban achieved in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: arctic</title>
		<link>http://www.theheacocks.com/2007/02/rip-confident-conservatism/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>arctic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to respond so much, I made a profile.

Just wanna make a few points:

&quot;This America cared about people in need&quot;
We voted for a guy because he didn&#039;t want to let boys marry boys. He worked really hard to make sure that was the defining point of the election.

&quot; cared about the moral codes of our founding fathers&quot;
In fact, the majority of our founding fathers were pagans and Masons, a number of them were notorius sluts, and both Ben Franklin and George Washington can be shown by historical texts to have been pot farmers. Not hemp, but the stuff people smoke. Just so we&#039;re clear on the moral codes they may have held.

As far as the rest goes, Iran wanting to kill us, Islam only wanting three things, etc., I kinda have to agree with you.
There are almost definately Iranians who want us dead (I&#039;ve never met any, so I can&#039;t say definately, can you?) but the leadership of the country is mostly the more peaceful group of Islam, the ones who believe it&#039;s wrong to hurt people. That&#039;s why they don&#039;t like us. It&#039;s also why their army hasn&#039;t made any moves against us (weapons suppliers having not yet been shown to be Iranian, but rather Saudi).
They just want us to go home.

I&#039;m not saying we shouldn&#039;t have been there in the first place. Even if they didn&#039;t have anything to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11, we were in the area. I&#039;m a big fan of grouping trips together, especially when it&#039;s far away, and with lots of people. It&#039;s great to remove a corrupt dictator from power. Maybe we should have done that the first time we went over there, in 1991. But we didn&#039;t. Why? Maybe because Bush the First didn&#039;t want to kill his old friend. I couldn&#039;t say. We just had no business sticking around. We took out the head, at that point we should have let them hash it out among themselves. I suspect they&#039;d be done by now if we had. There would almost certainly been fewer civilian causalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to respond so much, I made a profile.</p>
<p>Just wanna make a few points:</p>
<p>&#8220;This America cared about people in need&#8221;<br />
We voted for a guy because he didn&#8217;t want to let boys marry boys. He worked really hard to make sure that was the defining point of the election.</p>
<p>&#8221; cared about the moral codes of our founding fathers&#8221;<br />
In fact, the majority of our founding fathers were pagans and Masons, a number of them were notorius sluts, and both Ben Franklin and George Washington can be shown by historical texts to have been pot farmers. Not hemp, but the stuff people smoke. Just so we&#8217;re clear on the moral codes they may have held.</p>
<p>As far as the rest goes, Iran wanting to kill us, Islam only wanting three things, etc., I kinda have to agree with you.<br />
There are almost definately Iranians who want us dead (I&#8217;ve never met any, so I can&#8217;t say definately, can you?) but the leadership of the country is mostly the more peaceful group of Islam, the ones who believe it&#8217;s wrong to hurt people. That&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t like us. It&#8217;s also why their army hasn&#8217;t made any moves against us (weapons suppliers having not yet been shown to be Iranian, but rather Saudi).<br />
They just want us to go home.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we shouldn&#8217;t have been there in the first place. Even if they didn&#8217;t have anything to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11, we were in the area. I&#8217;m a big fan of grouping trips together, especially when it&#8217;s far away, and with lots of people. It&#8217;s great to remove a corrupt dictator from power. Maybe we should have done that the first time we went over there, in 1991. But we didn&#8217;t. Why? Maybe because Bush the First didn&#8217;t want to kill his old friend. I couldn&#8217;t say. We just had no business sticking around. We took out the head, at that point we should have let them hash it out among themselves. I suspect they&#8217;d be done by now if we had. There would almost certainly been fewer civilian causalties.</p>
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